Posts by Billy the Ex-Bethelite

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HELP - A Guide to Fade

by cognitivedizzy in

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hey everybody, been here lurking for years now... i tired of all the gb 2.0 shit and need to fade successfullydo we have a guide, i am very tempted to go out with a bang, but i want my wife with me, she aint a strong witness and would happily trust me ... i love her a lot.

status as of now,,, read coc isocf, been through jw facts and am convinced this religion is bs, also a ms now :( damn.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Welcome CogDizzy!

Here are the threads that I started that document some of my tactics:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/253592/exjw-psychology-101-keeping-your-cool-while-fading

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/254990/exjw-psychology-102-how-ask-question-when-questions-arent-allowed

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/255058/exjw-psychology-103-lets-reconsider-confidentiality

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/256052/exjw-psychology-104-one-way-play-depression-card

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/270595/exjw-psychology-105-you-ready-big

I hope there's something in there that you find helpful.

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my intro to the JW world

by rebelfighter in

someone suggested that i should introduce myself and how i got here.

this has been a crash course in the jw world.

i got an email that said "good bye, have a nice life".

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

A few of the questions were 1) why have we talked about every member of your family but in five years you somehow forgot you had a wife.

Wait, this is an elder and has a wife? ... And now he's bringing out the bible to preach to YOU? Toss that loser in the dumpster and move on. Congratulate yourself for scraping that turd off your shoe before you went much farther.

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Orchestral Accompaniment for Singing at Congregation Meetings

by pixel in

to all congregationsre: orchestral accompaniment for singing at congregation meetings.

dear brothers:.

many will find that the newly composed orchestral recordings are more inspiring andconducive to our worship than is piano music alone.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

I remember a long time ago before the recorded piano music came along, my congregation had an actual piano that someone would play the song while we sang.

What do you mean, "a long time ago"? I used to be one of those piano players that the congregation sang along with. Er, um, I hope that doesn't "out" me, so maybe I didn't play... like I haven't already given out enough personal info for the spies to come knocking. But come to think of it, it really was a long time ago that the CO came through and said it was time to stop that and use the recordings.

Even earlier before that I remember when they would assemble an orchestra for the discrap crapventions. And that was back in the day when food service was a huge operation for assemblies and crapventions.

Jeez, now I'm really feeling ancient.

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Another scientific gem from Brooklyn

by cappytan in

key quote:.

many believe that life came about by evolution.... ummmm, no...that's abiogenesis, not evolution.

no evolutionist says that "life came about by evolution.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

The "extraordinary amount of information contained in our cells" reveals how very similar we are to other species.

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New on here

by Tony Stark in

hey so i'm new on here.

just wanted to introduce myself.

in my 20's and was rasied one, and very popular among the jw community.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Welcome!

You wrote that you want to get reinstated in order to feel "normal" again, I assume that means you want to regain your "friends" and family. Then what's the plan? Do you want to become an MS and marry a pioneer? Do you plan to fade?

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Well, I asked a question and his answer blew me away

by Lost his mind in

first time, been lurking for years, but i asked my husband who has been studying for 20 plus years if he has ever questioned those that were "teaching" him.

blew my mind.

i ask him all the questions that you have asked yourself, but he will not ask them.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Welcome Lost his mind & rebelfighter!

Watchtower is a 19th century apocalyptic movement that has survived and evolved into the 21st century to become a high control top-down bureaucratic corporation. And if you dare to suggest that something isn't quite right with Watchtower or JWs, you can be sure that their first response will be to BLAME YOU!

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Orchestral Accompaniment for Singing at Congregation Meetings

by pixel in

to all congregationsre: orchestral accompaniment for singing at congregation meetings.

dear brothers:.

many will find that the newly composed orchestral recordings are more inspiring andconducive to our worship than is piano music alone.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Ah yes, wouldn't a lovely string arrangement be much more appropriate for the current state of WT:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RcVzevWX4U

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Hello, just introducing myself

by Miss Behaving in

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i've just signed up two days ago, but i've been lurking for about a year and a half.

here's my story if you're interested:.

my parents converted when they were in their first semester of college.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

My mother died a little bit before I left. I don't know how she would have reacted, but I want to believe that if she had still been here, she wouldn't have rejected me, I want to think that if she had been there, things would have turned out differently.
...
My last prayer was something like: 'Is there someone out there who still gives a damn about us? If you exist, please help me. Please help me to be safe and make a decent life, one that actually helps people.'
Maybe someone heard me, I seem to be moving in that direction.

I'm not religious or believe in 'ghosts', but I have to say that after the death of each of my grandparents I felt some kind of internal spiritual awakening. Particularly after the death of one grandmother it was as if a voice was telling me, "You're being deceived. Get out and live a better life." That began my exit from bethel, and eventually from JWland altogether. Maybe it was just my cognitive dissonance speaking louder than usual. Or maybe the dearly departed are permitted one phone call and my grandmother gave me her one call.

Although I'm an atheist and would tend to point and laugh at my suggestion that your mother gave you a wake-up call from "the other side", I also inherited a tendency toward superstition.

And my heartfelt condolences on the loss of your mother.

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New arrangement from C.O.

by Doctor Who in

i think most on here will be familiar with the caller hook up system that many congregations use.

visit about 2 months ago.

during our servant and elders meeting he was talking up the importance of meeting attendance and how we "gods spirit appointed men" must take the lead on making every meeting.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

it was found that he had a Playboy stash which he kept hidden in a desk in the library at the Kingdom Hall.

So when he told his wife he was going to the Kingdumb Haul to do some paperwork, his paperwork was grabbing the porn and heading for the ladies room.

Oh, and WRT the OP, the haul I was from originally was able to connect only 2 listeners so they would try to limit who could connect. Later they got a conference line. I think they might have tried to restrict it, but the old folks would try to go when they should stay home. Their access code was common knowledge and they sure wanted to be able to count as many as possible, so I can't imagine that they would try to restrict access in any way.

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Hello, just introducing myself

by Miss Behaving in

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i've just signed up two days ago, but i've been lurking for about a year and a half.

here's my story if you're interested:.

my parents converted when they were in their first semester of college.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Now THAT is an introduction! Welcome to the forum!

Well, I guess that's all. Hope it was helpful for someone.

I'm sure that's not ALL of it. Having been a devout JW myself, the dubs around me freaked when I went from elder to completely faded. I can only imagine the way the dubs around you FREAKED when you told them it isn't "the truth".

I wish you the very best in your studies and moving ahead with a true and free life. I hope you're somewhere that you can use meetup or facebook to meet some of the other fine exJWs.

And again, WELCOME!